Bob Owens

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Occupy Portland domestic terrorists arrested with hand grenades

Written By: Bob - Nov• 14•11

So this is what democracy looks like?

The deputy also found two gas masks, protective eye goggles and a safety helmet. All three men told the deputy that they had spent the night at the Occupy Portland demonstration, and they brought the mortars and safety equipment to the demonstration in preparation of the expected confrontation between police and protesters Sunday morning.

The three had been at the demonstration during the confrontation Sunday morning and had left about an hour before the vehicle was stopped. During that confrontation, a police officer was injured by a firework, but the three men denied being involved in the incident.

When asked about the explosives, the three men told authorities that they knew the canning jar would explode, causing glass shrapnel to fly and possibly cause injury.

I completely expect for Occupy supporters to try to minimize the threat, insisting that the fireworks and glass bombs posed little or no threat to police.

The fact of the matter is that fireworks are Class C explosives, and that by placing them in mason jars, they have created particularly insidious devices that have shrapnel than cannot be picked up on x-rays, and which can lead to a lingering painful death as the embedded glass shards slowly cut the victim apart from the inside. Such explosives used by a nation in a time of war would be considered war crimes according to both the Hague and Geneva Conventions; as these were manufactured by civilians for use against domestic law enforcement officers, I would make the argument that it is the Justice Department’s responsibility to charge these men with crimes related to domestic terrorism, not that they have the moral fiber to arrest terrorists loyal to a cause that President Obama supports.

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  1. Rob Crawford says:

    Prediction: lefties will declare these fellows to be “infiltrators” and blather something about “cointelpro”. This is based on the fact that they ALWAYS do this when they’re caught indulging in their love of violence.

  2. Emerson says:

    The failures of middle and upper class white families can be terrorists too? I thought they were freedom fighters with useless college degrees in some form of cultural trivia.

  3. porthuronpunk says:

    Occupy Gitmo. Now there is a occupation I can support

  4. Sigivald says:

    and which can lead to a lingering painful death as the embedded glass shards slowly cut the victim apart from the inside

    That might be just a little tiny bit overstated – especially in context, since those firework mortar shells aren’t exactly high explosives of the TNT variety; I’d expect the jar to shatter a lot more than creating a Deadly Field Of Horrible Glass Death.

    Mason jars aren’t exactly designed to produce ideal shrapnel, after all.

    This is piker-grade work, and if anything overstating the dangers will probably lead to more idiots thinking it’ll be spectacularly effective.

    (Thought experiment: Why didn’t/don’t the PLO/Hamas/Hezbollah types use glass bombs in the intifada, preferring plastic explosives wrapped with wire or nails?

    Because it’s not that effective.)

    Remember that while an X-ray might be bad at detecting glass in the body, it shows up handily with ultrasound imaging, and is thus still quite detectable by medical personnel.

    I imagine an MRI or CAT scan would also be able to manage it, but I’m not sure.

    • WebFoot Logger says:

      Many common fireworks contain detonating compounds . . . very much the same as high explosives.

      In fact, detonating powder is even less stable than TNT, and just about as powerful, and detonating powder is the active ingredient in firecrackers.

  5. schmuck281 says:

    You don’t understand. OWS is a non-violent protest. Therefore, any protester that commits violence is NOT part of OWS.