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Ex-cop Dorner becomes target of in-country drones?

Written By: Bob - Feb• 10•13

Via SayUnclethe Border Patrol: confirms that murderous ex-LAPD officer Christopher Dorner is being targeted by drones:

Yesterday, as a task force of 125 officers, some riding Snowcats in the rugged terrain, continued their search, it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil.

A senior police source said: “The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”

Asked directly if drones have already been deployed, Riverside Police Chief Sergio Diaz, who is jointly leading the task force, said: “We are using all the tools at our disposal.”

The use of drones was later confirmed by Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Ralph DeSio, who revealed agents have been prepared for Dorner to make a dash for the Mexican border since his rampage began.

He said: “This agency has been at the forefront of domestic use of drones by law enforcement. That’s all I can say at the moment.”

What is less clear is what they mean by “targeted.” If the spokesman inelegantly meant that authorities are simply searching for Dorner with drones, that is hardly a first in American law enforcement, though it might be the most high-profile case.

If, however, they are looking to terminate him with a bomb or missile from an armed drone, then we have crossed a Rubicon in this nation, where the government assumes it can kill American citizens ,at a distance on a whim, without due process. If that is the case, it merely escalates the possibility of an armed conflict breaking out between the would-be elites of the polimedia and those Americans who would remain free.

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38 Comments

  1. Phoenix says:

    And a million dollar bounty on his head….

  2. Gayle says:

    Lefties, behold… your brave new world.

    • BART SIMPSONSSON says:

      Gayle, I beg to differ with you. BOTH “PARTIES” ARE 100% COMPLICIT IN ALL THIS. Republicans are just democrat-lite. All part of the NWO.

  3. smitty says:

    “If, however, they are looking to terminate him with a bomb or missile from an armed drone, then we have crossed a Rubicon in this nation, where the government assumes it can kill American citizens ,at a distance on a whim, without due process.”

    That Rubicon has already been crossed, when the “target” is located outside the borders of the US.

    It’s just a matter of time as regards “targets” within the borders of the US…

    The initial “target” will be carefully chosen, someone notorious that will be immediately accepted by the public as legitimate, and Dorner appears to be a worthy candidate…

    Due process? We-government-don’t need no stinkin’ due process…

    Regardless, I still want to know the truth about his story of attempting to hold a fellow officer to account for misbehavior…

    That subsequent to making the allegations Dorner himself is accused of making false statements against that officer, leading to the ending of his police career (and possibly being the spark that lit his fuse)…seems to have a “thin blue line” odor about it…

    • Rob Crawford says:

      Apparently the LAPD’s “thin blue line” includes employees of the DoubleTree Hotel.

      That odor you’re smelling? Conspiracy theorist BS.

      • smitty says:

        I haven’t used the word “conspiracy” nor have I implied such in my post.

        If my use of the phrase “thin blue line” suggests such to you, Rob & MB Pig, that’s your problem…

        Generally speaking, I don’t trust -any- government personnel. They have lied too often for that. The brightest of the Founding Fathers counseled us to NEVER trust those with power. Were they just mere “conspiracy theorists” too?

        No, I don’t automatically trust police either, based on personal experience and the work of real journalists such as Radley Balko. He has documented extensively the militarized police of today and their misbehavior.

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/the-agitator

        I did say I’d like the truth…something that often appears-if at all-well after the actual events in question.

        The accounts of Dorner’s allegations against his fellow officer and the aftermath are far from conclusive either way.

        MB Pig condescendingly bleating “Oh Smitty wants to know the truth everybody!” speaks for itself.

        I wonder if Rob & MB Pig still believe the official government stories regarding Ruby Ridge and Waco…

    • Man-Bear-Pig says:

      Oh Smitty wants to know the truth everybody!

      I smell a conspiracy theorist, which would account for the odor.

      The truth couldn’t already be out there could it?

      DORNER falsely accused a fellow officer of brutality; lost his job; and snapped.

  4. bogbeagle says:

    Until the evidence is tested in open court, we cannot be sure whether anything of what we heard, is true.

    Dorner’s manifesto … who knows where it came from?

    Does he know “where the bodies are buried” ? If he does have such information, then his being vapourised might provide a tidy solution.

    • Rob Crawford says:

      The evidence was heard in court. It didn’t turn out the way Dorner wanted, so he killed his lawyer’s daughter. Stop trying to turn a lunatic into a hero.

      • Phoenix says:

        Or maybe he was actually innocent and took matters into his own hands.

        The truth is we will NEVER know the whole story…Isn’t that how false flags always work?

      • Col Bat Guano says:

        The guy is a lunatic. But if our “benevolent” government uses a drone to end him, his murder spree will seem tame in comparison to authoritarians who have broken down any internal barriers they may have had regarding killing citizens. Many such barriers have been broken in our culture over the past several decades. Human life is cheap and expendable.

  5. BillC says:

    This admin ignores borders when it concerns foreign nationals illegally coming into the US. It isn’t any leap of imagination to ignore borders concerning drone strikes.

    Courts! We don’t need no stinking courts!

  6. Ahab says:

    There is no possibility that Dorner will ever be captured. He will be summarily executed by the first cop who has the opportunity regardless of the circumstances of the encounter..

  7. Bill says:

    Like they’d admit using an armed drone. They’ll claim he had explosives on him and blew himself up when confronted unless it’s *very* public and caught on video.

    • Rob Crawford says:

      Like lunatics will care. He could show up on video with 50lbs of C-4 strapped to him, labels clearly visible and a detonator in his hand, blow himself up, and certain people will be screaming “DRONE!!!!” until their deaths.

      Use your brains, people, not your Oliver Stone-trained conspiracy reflexes. Not everything the government tells you is a lie, and trying to turn this lunatic into your Crispus Attucks will just get you abandoned by those less determined to jump at shadows.

      • Phoenix says:

        Hmmmmm, looks like Rob Crawford gives the Government a very big “benefit of the doubt”

        Seems to be a pattern.

      • Bill says:

        Really? Because Fast and Furious, Benghazi, Petraus, No WMDs in Iraq only there were, Iran not actually downing a drone only the US later on admitting they did, they don’t have a nuclear program only they do, government isn’t spying on it’s citizens, only it is massively so, government’s not coming to take your guns only there are bills being proposed that do exactly that, etc.
        Those actions have earned such incredible, blind, lockstep,
        trust haven’t they?

        Try not to label everyone who doesn’t trust the story they’re given in headlines to be the full truth as “lunatics”.

        I realize that would run counter to your theme on this site of denigrating everyone that’s a little worried about government overreach and all, but do try.

        I never claimed they were going to use armed drones on him. I said if they did, they sure as hell wouldn’t tell you that they did.

      • ConcernedPatriot says:

        Rob Crawford and Useful idiot = synonym

  8. Donald Arey III says:

    I wonder how those despicable people who believe Dorner is a “hero” will react to him getting snuffed by an armed drone? It could actually be leftist anarchist OWS types who light the fuse.

  9. Treker says:

    Drones are a tool of the battlefield . Now being used in Law Enforcement . The Rubicon has been crossed . Please see the two gals truck that they thought were Dorners . The Driver a 71 year old grandma had two shots in the back . The passenger her daughter had one shot through the hand . A total of 46 shots at point blank range at two women delivering newspapers in the wrong make and model and tag number and color of truck . Clearly graduates of the Barney Fife school to tactics.

    • Klingonwork says:

      Now imagine Treker, a SHTF scenario and all those “trained” law enforcement out there with same mentality.

  10. Whether on the found or from the air, they will kill him on sight. (How many more innocents will they shoot in their quest to murder him? Who’s next? You? Me? Anyone else who speaks out against government abuses and tyranny?)

    • Sorry … Spell check changed ground to found …

    • Phoenix says:

      This Governments propaganda literally has no bounds…

      We’re living in the “Matrix”. The Liberal media glosses over everything to fit their agenda.

      And it looks obvious to half the population, the other half could care less.

  11. Klingonwork says:

    I am wondering, will lethal force be used from a drone or is it simply to locate him then call in boots on the ground. If a drone strike is used to kill Dorner, the implications of that would be extraordinary regardless of whether or not Dorner is left wing, guilty, etc. If he is killed by a drone and that doesn’t send chills up your spine you are likely comatose. Once that first monumental step is taken, killing an American citizen on American soil, the rest are justified for ANY reason. That which was considered unthinkable and lunatic fringe a few short years ago, would turn material for a good movie into nightmarish reality. In an earlier post, I mentioned neutrilizing drones should be high on the priority list. Those with experience and expertise should be working stealthily now. Those patriots reading this who are also active duty military, should be considering courses of action, such as access to armories.

    Tread lightly indeed Washington, you will be responsible for nudging the tipping point which we are dangerously and precipitously close to.

    Molon Labe

  12. Comrade X says:

    Everybody knows government can be trusted, heck even our founding fathers knew that!

    Death before slavery!

  13. Peter says:

    Target discrimination, anyone?
    How many innocents who look vaguely like Dorner from a distance, in unclear weather, on a video screen, will die before the drone operators finally kill Dorner?
    Just buy their families new pickup trucks and all will be okay.

  14. Cole says:

    Chris Dorner isn’t the victim of some vast conspiracy. He was a lousy cop who lied, got fired, and then murdered innocent people unrelated to any of his grievances. He’s a violent leftist nut job. And I’ll be glad when this piece of human filth is dead. Go back to worrying about fluoride in the water or whatever.

    As to the drone: Everything I’ve read seems to indicate it’s just unarmed drones. So no crossing the Rubicon. On this front at least.

  15. Oleg Volk says:

    Target ID in thermal/infrared/video is pretty tough. More innocent people killed in the process? Most likely.

  16. david7134 says:

    The Feds crossed the line long ago. It started under the “War on Drugs”. People do not realize how much they gave up to keep people from doing what they desire, and not harming others. Now the cops can enter your home with a very loose warrant, their only knock is the sound of a battering ram knocking down your door, they can shoot you in your home if they feel threatened, and you are presumed guilty until found innocent. All this to keep someone from feeling better in this cruel world. I don’t use drugs, but have come to feel that we are not approaching the situation in a logical, kind manner.
    All of this has transferred to other aspects of government oversight and interference. I agree with everyone commenting in that we don’t have any information of use as it is all coming from the US media. The man may be a monster, or a hero. I am willing to bet that he will not be taken alive, then why the one million bounty? They don’t offer that if something happens to your family.

  17. david7134 says:

    Cole,
    The man has done nothing wrong. That is because a court has not deemed him guilty. Best to not judge with US media reporting. A good point would be something called weapons of mass destruction. Remember how we judged on that line?

  18. Cole says:

    david7134… the man murdered several people. I don’t need a judge to tell me that’s wrong. This isn’t a movie. There isn’t some one armed man who secretly framed him. Dorner left a crazy manifesto and shot innocent people. Why do you need a government official to point out a monster to you?

    • Phelps says:

      Because unless due process is followed, the government official IS the monster.

      • Cole says:

        There seems to be some misunderstanding. Due process refers to courts, trials, and sentencing. I’m not talking about any of that. I’m also not okaying assassinating the guy with missiles from some drone overhead. My comments were in response to posts above implying Dorner is the victim of some vast conspiracy and is innocent. The very notion is absurd. I then attempted to point out that we don’t need a trial to make personal judgments. If we see someone robbing a bank we don’t need to wait for the trial to know he’s a bank robber. There seems to be this sentiment in society that just because someone hasn’t been found guilty by a court we can’t make any judgments regarding them. That’s not the case. We live in a Republic and live by rule of law. So if we know a guy is a pedophile we can’t lynch him in the street. But that doesn’t mean we can’t say he’s a pedophile. Or protect our children from him. Dorner is a murderer. And a lunatic. That’s an opinion based on objective facts. We don’t need a trial for that.

      • Phelps says:

        Your stand is much more nuanced than the LAPD position, which has every appearance of “summary execution on sight”. Unfortunately, due process seems to be the furthest thing from their mind, and they are unfortunately your ally on this one.

  19. Man-Bear-Pig says:

    Okay everyone, put the kool-aid down.

    1. The information put out by the UK tabloid was FALSE. The CPB is not using its drones to aid in the search.

    SOURCE: http://www.kpbs.org/news/2013/feb/11/border-patrol-says-its-drones-not-being-used-dorne/

    2. CPB drones are NOT armed.

    A) They never have been armed.
    B) They are not authorized to be armed.
    C) They lack the personnel to arm them.
    D) They lack the missiles themselves.

    I am pissed off at the direction our country is headed just like the next guy, but the crazy conspiracy theories espoused by the readers here make me fear YOU more than my government.

    Molon Labe,

    Man-Bear-Pig

  20. John Jacobs says:

    Would never put this past Obama. He murdered a teenage boy, Abdelrahman Al-Awlaki in Yemen. Boy whose only apparent sin was to have a fanatic a**hole terrorist for a father.