Comments on: Is Joe Biden right? Comparing the double-barreled shotgun to the AR-15 for self defense. http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/02/is-joe-biden-right-comparing-the-double-barreled-shotgun-to-th-ar-15-for-self-defense/ The saddest truth in politics is that people get the leaders they deserve Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:50:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: J White http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/02/is-joe-biden-right-comparing-the-double-barreled-shotgun-to-th-ar-15-for-self-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-62579 J White Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:45:35 +0000 http://www.bob-owens.com/?p=2914#comment-62579 Joe Biden urges everyone to go out and get a shotgun. Let’s consider that… AR-15 shoots a .223/5.56mm round that was designed to maim or incapacitate, not kill. A 12 Gauge shotgun’s bore measures .720, which is a little over 3X the size of an AR-15 projectile. The .223/5.56 is typically a 55-65 grain projectile. A 12 gauge slug is typically 1 oz. In reference, 1 grain = 0.00228571429 ounces or 1 ounce = 437.5 grains. Therefore a 12 Gauge slug is 8X heavier than a .223/5.56 projectile. My AR-15 holds 30 rounds and my Remington 870 12g holds 7. In terms of firepower, my fully loaded AR-15 holds 1,650 grains of projectiles where my fully loaded Remington 870 3062.5 grains. That means in order to match the potential amount of lead put downrange I would have to fire 1.85 fully loaded 30 round magazines from my AR-15. Biden specifies using a double barreled shotgun for home defense. That means TWO rounds per reload. 437.5 x 2= 875. In order to match the potential of one fully loaded AR-15 magazine, I would have to reload once with a double barrel. Consider the speed with which a DB shotgun can be reloaded by the regular, ordinary citizen that has very little practice and/or range time. I make these calculations unbiased and with only education in mind. YMMV. On the matter of opinion, I would put a good solid pump shotgun that holds at LEAST 5 slugs on par with an AR-15 BUT ONLY in the hands of an individual who has practiced with and is accustomed to the firing characteristics of a pump shotgun. I also did not touch on the subject of shotshells, be it buckshot, birdshot, or any other type.

]]> By: uninformedluddite http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/02/is-joe-biden-right-comparing-the-double-barreled-shotgun-to-th-ar-15-for-self-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-59826 uninformedluddite Sat, 02 Mar 2013 00:42:58 +0000 http://www.bob-owens.com/?p=2914#comment-59826 I have never heard a senior’s penis described as a vintage trans am before.

]]> By: CayleyGraph http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/02/is-joe-biden-right-comparing-the-double-barreled-shotgun-to-th-ar-15-for-self-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-58465 CayleyGraph Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:52:54 +0000 http://www.bob-owens.com/?p=2914#comment-58465 Oh, sure, you laugh at the prospect of being attacked by the birds. But the birds can very easily be dangerous, as shown in the Hitchcock documentary whose name escapes me at the moment.

]]> By: Rip http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/02/is-joe-biden-right-comparing-the-double-barreled-shotgun-to-th-ar-15-for-self-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-58452 Rip Mon, 25 Feb 2013 11:45:21 +0000 http://www.bob-owens.com/?p=2914#comment-58452 If a shotgun is easier to aim and easier to use than an AR-15, shouldn’t we be banning shotguns instead? I mean, I thought we were supposed to be banning guns that can be used to kill people easily.

]]> By: Col Bat Guano http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/02/is-joe-biden-right-comparing-the-double-barreled-shotgun-to-th-ar-15-for-self-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-58219 Col Bat Guano Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:47:24 +0000 http://www.bob-owens.com/?p=2914#comment-58219 “Vice President Biden is wrong on the law, wrong on the guns, and wrong on the facts.”

Uncle Joe was hitting the sauce again before that interview. What’s worse? A drunken VPOTUS, or a dumb-as-a-brick VPOTUS.

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