Bob Owens

The saddest truth in politics is that people get the leaders they deserve

The charade is over: Democrats tip hand that “background checks” are a smokescreen for national gun registration.

Written By: Bob - Feb• 24•13
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The mask slips, revealing the monster underneath:

A bipartisan group of senators is on the verge of a deal that would expand background checks to all private firearms sales with limited exemptions, but significant disagreements remain on the issue of keeping records of private gun sales, according to aides familiar with the talks.

Democrats say that keeping records of private sales is necessary to enforce any new law and because current federal law requires licensed firearm dealers to keep records. Records of private sales also would help law enforcement trace back the history of a gun used in a crime, according to Democratic aides. Republicans, however, believe that records of private sales could put an undue burden on gun owners or could be perceived by gun rights advocates as a precursor to a national gun registry.

My bold above, of course.

Keeping records is registration, and if you can show me an example of a nation where registration didn’t lead to confiscation and the disarmament of the citizenry I’d love to see it. This is the necessary precursor for a police state, and the conditions that led to the deaths of 262 million from their own governments in the 20th Century alone.

Any politician that supports this law is placing a death sentence on the liberty of your children, and should be treated as an outlaw.

Update: I’d almost forgotten that the NRA obtained an Obama Administration DOJ memo calling for registration/confiscation:

The memo, under the name of one of the Justice Department’s leading crime researchers, critiques the effectiveness of gun control proposals, including some of President Barack Obama’s. A Justice Department official called the memo an unfinished review of gun violence research and said it does not represent administration policy.

The memo says requiring background checks for more gun purchases could help, but also could lead to more illicit weapons sales. It says banning assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines produced in the future but exempting those already owned by the public, as Obama has proposed, would have limited impact because people now own so many of those items.

It also says that even total elimination of assault weapons would have little overall effect on gun killings because assault weapons account for a limited proportion of those crimes.

The nine-page document says the success of universal background checks would depend in part on “requiring gun registration,” and says gun buybacks would not be effective “unless massive and coupled with a ban.”

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17 Comments

  1. Rob Crawford says:

    Canada’s the only example I’m aware of where a registry didn’t end with confiscation. But they got the government to admit the registry had never solved a single case, despite spending a billion on it. Our Congresscritters will claim a registry will solve the disappearance of Judge Crater and won’t cost a penny.

    Regardless, “records of private sales” is a registry. Plus, imagine the fun of “rifle or paper” inspections!

    And a sudden thought — isn’t this an admission that they’ve been using NICS records and FFL sales logs as a de facto registry? Isn’t that illegal?

  2. chief661 says:

    Bob, CA already keeps records of handgun ownership and starting next year they will require registration on purchase of all long guns. I plan to be gone soon, but not soon enough for me.
    Everyone who has a brain knows these checks will be used to guide the union thugs with guns and badges, AKA the police, where to go when the politicians decide that confiscation is in their best interest.

    This will all be in the name of “public safety” mind you.

    We have an idiot State Assemblyman who just proposed a new bill. The bill requires an owner authorized safety mechanism, such as bio-metric readers or other technologies for handguns. We are already required to have a DOJ approved safe and pass a handgun safety certificate test before we can purchase a hand gun. It’s not about gun control, this crap is all about control period.

    • Undercover in L.A. says:

      I believe they are already registering long guns — I had to wait an extra day past the regular waiting period because the FFL holder I had a Garand shipped to said his software was down and he “couldn’t register it until tomorrow…” Unless I’m missing something?

  3. cloaked in mystery says:

    statistics in europe suggest that registration is ineffective, And attempts to track registered guns tend to fail miserably.

    All evidence suggests that registration is not even effective at significantly aiding confiscation, it just seems to be a way to irritate and stigmatize people and make excuses for further harassment.

    Short of door to door searches, no registration scheme will do much apart from harassing citizens.

    In the states, NFA compliance is likely under 10% with 10 or more unregistered NFA items for every registered one.

    basicaly sounds exactly like many political schemes usless apart from enabling thuggishness and pissing off everyone not in bed with the politicians.

    • Publius says:

      It may not be effective as registration, but it does two things. It gives government a place to start when they want to round up everybody’s guns.

      And second, it creates a boatload of “paper criminals” who can be charged with various felonies, which is again useful to government seeking to control you.

      • “Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against… We’re after power and we mean it… There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.” -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

  4. President Downgrade says:

    Even in Canada, registration led to confiscation. Several assaulty looking guns were made illegal after registration and the owners were forced to turn them in.

    Low information voters think that genocide is something to make a movie about when you want an Oscar. They really don’t understand the ugly end of gun control. Any politician who moves toward registration is a danger to our children and removing them from office should become a personal mission of us all. Luckily, Tom Coburn stepped back from the brink.

    What galls me most is the arrogance of any politician who puts my family in danger and believes that their own families will be immune when society or the government turns ugly.

  5. smitty says:

    It should be noted that this is a bi-partisan effort.

    This piece of (cough-hack-gag) legislation will sail through the Senate and House only with the support of Republican RINOs. And it will probably be upheld by SCOTUS as being “reasonable restrictions”…

    Boiled down to its essence, we are really ruled by a single political party with two wings…

    Look at all they have worked in concert on besides gun control: taxes; ever-expanding government scope of power and spending; the advancing surveillance/police state; perpetual global warfare; UAV Drone attacks; detention and assassination of Americans with no due process; the Prison Industrial Complex; the general corruption of the judicial system…

    Another of the critical things they work together on is putting in place rules and procedures that prevent any other political parties from competing in the arena.

    It’s about time we face the fact that nearly all that spews forth from Washington, as well as the state capitols…is the result of Democrats and Republicans working together.

    The two-party charade provides the illusion of self-government while operating as a control mechanism over the rabble…

    • creeper says:

      Thank you, smitty, for pointing out Republicans’ culpability in gun control legislation. Let us not forget that they were the ones who pushed the Brady Bill.

  6. Al Reasin says:

    MD requires their own check of handguns and so-called assault rifles and keeps the records; de facto registration of those firearms. We know that Holder, when acting AG under Clinton, illegally kept the background check records beyond 90 days (DE violated its law too), and who is to say it is not being done now to have the feds de facto registering all firearms since this administration came into office. I can’t trust anything this administration says since they lie when the truth will do.

  7. gary says:

    gun owners of the u.s.a. load up your guns and get ready for
    a fight. these polititions must think we are kidding when we say we will defend our freedoms. they will soon find out.

  8. Treker says:

    On February 19th 1941 120,000 mostly Americans were forcibly removed from their homes and sent to concentration camps . They lost everything . Even those that owned their farms and homes outright could not pay the property tax and lost that . Because some were my neighbors my fathers said all of their equipment was ransacked and their household furnishing stolen . All under the eyes of law enforcement .
    Given the population ratios that would be 750,000 people today . Including thousands of children . The worst part many had to work in prison labor camps for 3 cents per hour . The crime they committed is they were of Japanese ancestry . And yes they did use the Census data to find them.
    They will NEVER get me to register anything . Remember these liberal bastards are cowards and they were rather use data than a DPMS against you.

    • Obama’s buddy Ayers and his cohorts (some of Obama’s mentors on radical Marxism) envisioned exterminating 20-30 million Americans who couldn’t be “re-educated in their camps.
      FEMA has built many of use camps.

      DHS and other alphabet agencies have recently purchased over 1.8 BILLION rounds of hollow point ammo – enough to shoot every man, woman, and child in the country 5 times or more – ammo that’s illegal for military use under international law, and have just ordered more and an additional 7,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC “personal defense” weapons. How does anyone with the capability of rational thought escape the conclusion that our government is preparing for a war on its own citizens?

      Feinstein, Schumer, Obama, Holder, Bloomberg, Cuomo, and their whole gang are tyrant wannabes. To them, anyone who does, or might, oppose their control over every aspect of our lives, is “a criminal” because they said so.

      To quote a few of their heroes, with explanatory comments in ( ):

      “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” – Mao
      (They revere Mao and the way he ruthlessly grabbed power in China. The fact that he murdered about 100 million Chinese to do it is, to them, a “feature,” not a “bug.”)

      “If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves. … The only real power comes out of a long rifle. … Everyone imposes his own system as far as his army can reach. … We don’t let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns? … The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic.” — Joseph Stalin

      “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.” — Adolf Hitler
      (These psychopathic sociopaths in our government – and THEY ARE PRECISELY THAT, never make the mistake of doubting it – believe that they are anointed to be our rulers and that we are the equivalent of Hitler’s “subject races.” And we know what they did to “them.”)
      Don’t tell me, “It can’t happen here in America.” To borrow a quote from Mike Vanderboegh,
      “Anyone who tells you that ‘It Can’t Happen Here’ is whistling past the graveyard of history. There is no ‘house rule’ that bars tyranny coming to America. History is replete with republics whose people grew complacent and descended into imperial butchery and chaos.”
      Hitler disarmed the Jews and others, then murdered millions
      Stalin disarmed the Russians, them murdered millions
      Mao disarmed the Chinese peasants, then murdered nearly 100 million.
      The Turks disarmed the Armenians, then murdered 1.5-2 million.
      Pol Pot disarmed the Cambodians and murdered millions.
      Rwanda disarmed its ethnic groups, then murdered millions.
      The list goes on … about 262 MILLION people murdered BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENTS in the 20th century – AFTER they allowed those governments to disarm them. See: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
      They ALL thought “It can’t happen here” – until they were disarmed and it started, then it was too late. Don’t make the same mistake. Don’t EVER let your government disarm you.

      The Founders knew that government, if not constrained at every step, will continue to accumulate power and control until it becomes tyranny. That’s why they feared standing armies and insisted that the “right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
      “A tyrannical rule cannot in any reasonable construction be accounted lawful, and therefore the disturbance of such a government cannot be esteemed seditious, much less traitorous.” – Thomas Aquinas
      When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance becomes Duty – Thomas Jefferson
      Take the pledge:
      http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/12/19/my-personal-pledge-of-resistance-against-any-attemp-to-disarm-us-by-means-of-an-assault-weapons-ban/

  9. Mudlark says:

    The progressives are just neoMarxists. They want power, power above all. This will not end well.

  10. Phelps says:

    People aren’t buying any piece of ammunition they can find just so they can stick it in the back of the closet and hand in the gun to fire it.