Bob Owens

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According to Associated Press, Newtown gunman was equipped with tiny shotgun with 6-foot tall magazines

Written By: Bob - Mar• 28•13

I never knew a gun safe was part of an arsenal, but then, I never knew a shotgun that could fit in a glovebox could use 70-round magazines.

Sedensky says Lanza killed all 26 victims inside Sandy Hook Elementary School with a Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle before taking his own life with a Glock 10 mm handgun. He says Lanza had another loaded handgun with him inside the school as well as three, 30-round magazines for the Bushmaster.

A loaded 12-gauge shotgun was found in the glove compartment of the Honda Civic Lanza drove to the school with two magazines containing 70 rounds of Winchester 12-gauge shotgun rounds.

The shotgun recovered from Lanza’s car was not half the size of a Serbu Super-Shorty, nor was it an AOW of any sort, legal or illegal in nature. The regular-sized shotgun was recovered from the trunk of the vehicle.

Nor has there ever been 70-round 12-gauge shotgun magazines commercially sold by anyone, anywhere. In a typical “stick” they’d be roughly 6-feet tall, dwarfing the firearm itself and unusable without a ladder.

Saiga SBS with 12-round Surefire magazine.

Saiga SBS with 12-round Surefire magazine on Gun Rights Media. Can you imagine a shotgun the size of just the stock (to fit in a glove compartment), and a much longer magazine?

I’d contacted a senior official at the Associated Press months ago, advising that it would help their credibility tremendously if they hired a dedicated firearms editor to review all stories describing firearms before they put out absurd statements like this on the wire. Reuters, UPI, and other outlets would likewise benefit from such a service. It seems they would rather continue damaging their credibility with every absurd claim than spend $120K year in salary and benefits to get basic details correct.

Update: Added the photo for folks who may not easily visualize the absurdity of the AP statement.

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  1. Comrade X says:

    “I’d contacted a senior official at the Associated Press months ago, advising that it would help their credibility tremendously if they hired a dedicated firearms editor to review all stories describing firearms before they put out absurd statements like this on the wire.”

    If it ain’t about the truth why would real facts matter anyway?

    Death before slavery!

  2. Mr Wolf, non-ESQ says:

    Original article has been editted, without any ‘update’ mentioned. It now says only ”in the Honda”. No glovebox or even trunk mentioned.

    Hope you got screen caps! I’m betting every FB page and gunblog out there was mentioning it.

    • Lazy Bike Commuter says:

      Now it says “in the passenger compartment”.

      Though from the footage filmed from the news chopper, you can see that the shotgun was actually in the trunk.

      Layers of editorial oversight.

  3. Marty says:

    Please, Bob. It’s not about the facts, it’s about the hype. They don’t care about accuracy. The message is “GUN!! – EVIL!!!”.

  4. Klingonwork says:

    So caught up in their own emotion, no time for facts…only fantasy.

    Now I’d really like to see a 70 rd shotgun magazine!

    Molon Labe

  5. sluggo says:

    Honestly, I’d happily consult with them on all their firearms stories to ensure accuracy for an $80k retainer, so that’s a $40k savings over what they might have had to pay!

  6. Steven says:

    First off – total salivation as to wanting that shotgun. I have a Mossberg 500 Tactical, and it’s a solid performer, but one can want …..

    Second – are there drums for shotguns? I honestly don’t know and confess my ignorance as to the subject. Anyone?

    Third – It cracks me up how many of us 2nd Pro-Amendment types react to misinformation: we try to be logical and helpful to people who don’t freaking care and have an outright agenda.

    We want to use facts, and since facts aren’t working for the anti-gunners …….

    • Bob says:

      Steven, there are drum magazines for shotguns, and most top out at 20 rounds. Alliance Armament makes a massive 30-round open drum for $425. The only 35-round drums I’m aware of (which is the only way the AP math might stand a chance of holding up, if they meant 2, 35-round magazines) are for Nerf guns.

    • Steve Skubinna says:

      If you’re a Firefly fan, Jayne Cobb’s Vera was a heavily tricked out Saiga shotgun.

      Come to think of it, that’s the case even if you aren’t a Firefly fan. But you should be one.

  7. simms520 says:

    Back in the day, like 1893 to 1921 there was a guy named Melvin E Stone who became the GM of the AP. He held the standards of the AP to accuracy, impartiality, and integrity. AP became the worlds most prominent news agency. Since 2008 the AP has seen its revenues drop every year with 2012 being reported as a $193 million loss.
    You would think they would revisit their history and go back to good old fashion honest reporting. I dont think that is possible when they are based in NYC under the infamous Mayor who hates guns and wants to tell us all what we can do and cant do! Good luck with your failure AP reporting shotguns in glove compartments and just plan incorrect facts will speed up your demise! “Molon Labe”

  8. simms520 says:

    WTF moment here today all the news agencies are reporting that Adam Lanza had an arsenal?? Really there were a few guns and 1600 rounds of ammo! Hardly an arsenal!The lefties are getting crazy and using sensationalism really well to further their gun control cause. This fight is far from over be ready everyone! “Molon Labe”

  9. Heartless Libertarian says:

    Here’s a pic of an Open Division Saiga-12 shotgun with what I’d guess is a 20 round home-built magazine. 24 at the most.

    Even a 35-rounder would be unmanagable. 70 would be just straight up stupid.

  10. JoetheSerf says:

    Folks…..the media, the self proclaimed elite, have a singular agenda of promoting gun control and disarming average Americans. It is not for your security, but instead for the security of those that are coming for second dibs on your pensions and rights, just as they came for the bailout.

    Unfortunately the media is not reporting facts or the news, they are promoting agendas. Forget about the fable about the political left or right. This is about limousine financial elites pretending to be liberals wanting more from the American sheep than they’ve already taken/stolen.

    If the media were interested in reporting facts instead of propaganda they’d be demanding and reporting toxicology reports.