Bob Owens

The saddest truth in politics is that people get the leaders they deserve

Prelude to a revolution: Shumer’s gun transfer ban

Written By: Bob - Mar• 12•13

Chuck Schumer’s S. 374, the Orwellian “Protecting Responsible Gun Sellers Act of 2013,” has been an empty shell… until he slipped in Amendment ALB13180 (PDF) today, which shows the “teeth” of the bill.  It is an extremely aggressive attempt to destroy the Second Amendment by isolating and criminalizing extremely common behaviors among gun owners.

Doubt me?

Take a looking at a sampling of what it Sebastian notes it would outlaw:

  • If you leave home for more than 7 days and leave anyone at home, that becomes a felony illegal transfer. 5 years in prison for each of you.
  • if you take a friend shooting and allow him to fire your gun, that is a felony illegal transfer. 5 years in prison for each of you.
  • If you have a gun lost or stolen and don’t report it within 24 hours, you’ve committed a felony. 5 years in prison.
  • If you lend a gun to someone for to try out at the range, provide a loaner for a student in training, let your son shoot a rifle you purchased while hunting, or provide a gun to a woman for self-defense, you’ve committed a felony. 5 years in prison for each of you.

That’s just scratching the surface. Make sure you read the rest about how it could Schumer’s law put gun dealers out of business, and create a de facto national registry… a prelude to confiscation.

It’s inching closer.

May God have mercy on us all.

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53 Comments

  1. Steve D. says:

    May God have mercy on Chuck Schumer.

    • Welcome Black Carter says:

      May God remove the liberalism which blinds him and others holding a “now serving” number to meet satan…

      • cmip says:

        May God move Godly people to finally take ACTION to implement justice in the land, instead of just expecting it to magically happen on its own. Or to wring their hands at how evil its all become.
        “Only thing necessary for triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
        Which is exactly where our “patriots” are today.

  2. Klingonwork says:

    Can’t read the rest, it will just get me upset.

    This is not the United States.

    If it were, we’d have a Constitution, and it would not have been sh*t upon and eliminated.

    I’m praying Chuck Shumer and DiFi are the ones walking up my driveway to get my weapons.

    Molon Labe

    • thebronze says:

      Same here. The problem is, they’re too smug to realize the sh*t storm they’re creating and how dangerous it’s going to be for them.

      It’s not going to end well for ANY of these traitors…

      • kevin J J Kehoe bloodyspartan says:

        Burning at the Stake is a fitting END for WITCHES and BITCHES!

      • Louisiana_Mom says:

        I believe they know full well the “sh*t storm” they are creating. I’ve believed for a long time they are intentionally trying to get us to revolt, so they can clamp down on us even more… Martial Law would give them the “right” to tell us what we can and cannot do from morning until night.

  3. Parker says:

    IMO this will never get out of the senate and go to the house. Even if it made it to the house it would be defeated. Its show boating. Its a valuable propaganda gift because it blatantly shows their true intentions. The likes of Cruz and Rand Paul will know how to use it. The only way for the fascist left to advance their ‘gun control’ agenda is via executive orders. IMO the battle is in the states.

    • cmip says:

      It actually doesnt need to get out of the Senate. What no one seems to have noticed is that this week FINAL treaty negotiations are being signed at the UN to ban small arms. As a signatory to the UN, this deal is all that is needed to justify the full clampdown and disarmament of Americans, and nary a word of it amongst the ‘patriots’ out there. Pathetic.

  4. Orion says:

    PASS IT! PASS IT! PASS IT!!!

    I’m gonna call my Congresscritters tomorrow and demand they pass it.

    Let’s roll!

    Orion

    • Treker says:

      Orion you are exactly right . Enough of the tip toeing around bring it on. Right now every Congresscritter is afraid to hold a “Town Hall” . Can’t wait till this passes. They will have to make DC an armed camp.

    • Molon Labe says:

      Agree, pass the bills traitors!
      We know who the traitors are, the oath breakers and complicit minions… lets get this law passed and any others that they feel froggy with.
      Better now and get this party started on our watch, clean the field for our kids and grandkids to live free as we once lived.
      I say to these oath breakers, “go schumer yourself” you will get your just deserves as tyrants and traitors against The Constitution.
      Bring it on you panty wastes, this is a fight between good and evil, and we know which side we are on in this fight.
      Molon Labe.

      • cmip says:

        Bring it on you say? You coward with your big mouth. If you and others like you had resisted earlier when the gun bans could still be stopped- we wouldnt be in this position now. Bluster and boasting from a$$holes, little more. Lets see you whine when they mow down your home with a tank, sound canon or a drone.

  5. john says:

    I no longer even recognize the “authority” of our elected buffoons to make laws that affect me. They’ve proven to be beneath my contempt by virtue of their own actions. They care nothing for the rights of free Americans and this disdain manifests in “laws” designed to punish ALL citizens for the transgressions of the individual.
    Here’s a thought, We the People are NOT kindergartners, you will NOT be treating us as such. Keep pushing and we’ll soon see whose will is greater.

    • thebronze says:

      “I no longer even recognize the “authority” of our elected buffoons to make laws that affect me.”

      Spot-on.

      • cmip says:

        just what does that bit of bravado mean? have even ONE of you refused to pay IRS taxes to deprive them of their criminal pay?
        No, I thought not.

    • kevin J J Kehoe bloodyspartan says:

      I would really hate to tell you how long I have been defying their laws.
      But use you imagination there are many things they think our the Power of the state, yet belong to us ,.
      IE the right to come and go as wel please,

      The Horse we choose has nothing to to with them.

  6. rumcrook says:

    They want to criminalize as much of our mundane life as possible not to come lock us all up but so we will shut up and be ruled quietly because anyone who speaks out or confronts them can easily be arrested for something. For instance a known enemy of the political elite can’t be co-opted wait till he goes on a business trip leaving his wife home with the children and guns then arrest them both and take away the children. Opposition neutralized and the state run media will help destroy them for good measure.

  7. Cole says:

    Well if this story is accurate, we are there. [link fixed -ed.]

    Good to know that if my elderly Mother grabs a gun to protect herself from an intruder we can both be charged with a felony. At some point you just want the war to come so we can restore some measure of sanity.

  8. Elisheva says:

    How can they even begin to enforce such a law?
    Like the Colorado bans, this is entirely unenforcible.

    Here is my thought: just as the right to vote cannot be encumbered by poll taxes, so too, it is an infringement on the right to bear arms for there to be any impediments put in the way. This was one of the points of Heller, and I expect that in the unlikely (but unfortunately not impossible) event that this thing passes, it would be struck down as well.

    Although I admit my faith in the courts is severely lacking these days . . .

    But if push comes to shove, we will not comply.

    One question: Do these asshats know how big flyover country is? It is almost as if they put this in there to make sure the thing fails.

    • Bill says:

      Slowly, over time. Everyone stays put waiting for the big event, while there continue to be a steady drip of slow ones.

      C’mon. It’s impossible to ignore now.

      • Rick says:

        Bill; You are correct, IE “everyone is waiting for the big one”: Those in power who desire to control us know this, and do it to us in slw, small, steady increments; and we stand back being pushed a little furhter each time towards the end of the cliff. And I doubt, although I hope I’m wrong, will never fight back; REALLY fight back.

  9. rumcrook™ says:

    we have reached the point where the busibody statists have reached the frantic pace that all of thier utterances are solid gold. their opinions should have the wieght of law. we are well past the point that if they dont want something, they shouldnt participate or buy it now if they dont like it and dont want it you shouldnt either.

    we have reached the point where the united states is of the government by the government and for the government.

  10. SonofLiberty says:

    I no longer consent to their governing.
    i am a free citizen.
    Not a subject.
    So let it be.

  11. Sully says:

    Correct me if I am wrong, but 202(4)(2)says that 202(4)(1) does not apply to gifting betwen spouses, siblings or grandparents to grandchildren; Passing down as a result of death. Temp transfer under 202 (2)(C) says temp transfer is allowed even for hunting so long as the person legally engages in said activity blah blah. Now if you loan it to them it is legal so long as it is less than one week and also assuming that they possess the proper paperwork to hunt the king’s animals…leaving home and having a house sitter for 8 days is not a transfer of a firearm. Transfer of a firearm is the owner physically relinquishing control of the firearm to another person under the agreement that the other person is knowingly taking control of the firearm from the owner.

    Im the first person to get riled up and I know this will be a slippery slope. Im just saying that the actual code sections dont say all of what you are saying they do. You are correct about the lost/stolen (section 203) part…I guess no more boating accidents when the time comes.

    • Rob Crawford says:

      Lots of people I know are lawyers interpret it differently than you do.

      Transfer of a firearm is the owner physically relinquishing control of the firearm to another person under the agreement that the other person is knowingly taking control of the firearm from the owner.

      Leaving someone to watch your home includes all the property within it. That would mean a house-sitter has taken control of the firearm.

      • Sully says:

        yea, I could see it taken that way too. Unfortunate for us the vagueness of these laws is what gives them their teeth

    • kevin J J Kehoe bloodyspartan says:

      Shall not INFRINGE.

    • Oathkeeper says:

      Forgive me but all these laws are bs. No politician has the authority to violate the second ammendment. There should be a law that states that if a politician violates, or attempts to violate the constitution by act or deed or bill, they will be considered to have foresaken their oath and thus quit their job being outside the scope of theirbemployment. Further, an attempt via deed or bill or law requires the politician to forfeit his total property, holdings, and all assets prior to the bill being considered. Further, if any so acting politician crosses any state line, they shall be arrested and incarcerated for civil, constitutional, and human rights violations with a minimum mandatory sentence of 10 years per count.

      • Rick says:

        Oathkeepr; There IS such a law, at least as far as literally, instantly, removing them from office, and all without any court needing to act. Read the 14th Amendment, Bill of Rights, paragraph 3, then consider this. IF any legislator, or any other public officer acts in such a way that denies, sets-aside, or opposes the power(read authroity) of the Constitution, have they not committed an “insurrection” and/or “rebellion” against the Constitution? If you answer is yes, then they are immediately out of office.

  12. no3 says:

    Shumer’s bill it may be im sure this is being organized from the top down.

  13. no3 says:

    And why aren’t sheriffs threatening to arrest people like shumer for oh i don’t know treason?

    to uphold and defend the constitution from enemy’s both foreign and domestic.

    shall not be infringed is a pretty clear statement.

  14. rumcrook says:

    There are now two tribes in this nation. The government tribe and all those wishing to be affiliated, and the free tribe

  15. Jeff says:

    Letting a pro gun control ideologue draft firearms legislation is like letting NAMBLA craft legislation on kiddie porn.

    The most insidious part of almost all gun legislation is the presumption of mens rea. Put simply, is case a liberal is reading this, that means gun legislation is written with the presumption that even a technical violation is an act of criminal intent. The legislation crafted by Charles Schumer criminalizes innocent acts. Asking my buddy to put my shotgun in the car before we go on a hunting trip is felonious act under Schumer’s law.

    Under the new New York SAFE act, possession of a larger than 10 round magazine is a class D felony, worse that the penalty for criminally negligent homicide and sexual assault on a child and many other violent crimes.

    The whole idea is to produce a legal minefield so difficult to navigate lawfully that a large number of gun owners are converted into felons, disabled from owning guns under current federal legislation.

    • roger says:

      CONstitutionally;
      Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17. It is clear where their legislative power resides.

      It don’t mean nuthin’ tho’

    • anon123 says:

      Actually, the NY SAFE act makes possession of a “high capacity ammunition feeding device” a Class A Misdemeanor, not a felony.

  16. gary says:

    i just hope schumer is in the front of the line when they come and TRY to take my guns and my freedoms. he is a traitor and a coward like the rest of obamas corrupt goverment.

  17. Jack says:

    Check out Martin Armstrong’s blog… his economic forecast software shows March 22, 2013 as the turning point for political change.

    The “Obama Deception’s mask” is coming off next week.

  18. rob says:

    As society at large produces, through reproduction and nurturing, a number of geniuses it also produces Schumers, Blooombergs, Feinsteins and Obamas. Those folks that vote for them are their legal serfs. They remind me of the Italian Communist Party in the ’80s, when they were on the verge of being voted in to control of the Italian government. Its head was interviewed by Robert S. Elegant of the LATimes who remarked that the top Italian Commie didn’t seem too excited about taking over the government.
    “No, of course not,” he replied. “You know what we are like when we get control.”

  19. 4strokes says:

    Did you notice that Chuckie is giving Eric “Fast-n-Furious” Holder $100,000,000 per year to implement this crap.

    There is also no exemption for transport or repair. Hand your gun to TSA agent at an airport for a flight – you are a felon. Pick-up your gun after a trigger job, you’ll need to file a 4473 to get it back.

  20. bubba says:

    We hold the Constitution as our contract with the government in which it codifies and guarantees our God given natural rights. If the Constitution no longer protects us then it will no longer protect them either.

  21. Comrade X says:

    It is clear that everything the gun grabbers are doing is all about picking us off one at a time.

    Pass this bill or that, add a new law here or there, but what they all add up to is each one of these laws makes another of us a criminal, citizens who are law abiding otherwise.

    Then they wait for something to happen, say like your house is broken into and you defend it or someone you love is attacked and you come to their aid, etc, etc,, with all the new regulations they will have a good chance to charge you with something or other to brand you a criminal or take your arms away. The weak hearted will give in to keep the government at bay, give up their guns or even try to comply with the regulations.

    This has happened before! And there was always those that said; comply and no harm would come to you, move to the ghetto; at least we are still alive, get on the train because they really won’t do real evil, because they need us, because they are human too and they can’t be really that evil, they only want what is best!

    I SAY THEY ARE EVIL and there is only one thing that you can do with evil, FIGHT IT, in every inch, in every valley, on every hill, in every field; in every way you have; with every tool at your disposal, till either evil is defeated; is destroyed, and if it takes days, months, years or generations, YOU NEVER GIVE UP; EVER!

    DEATH BEFORE SLAVERY!

  22. Comrade X says:

    Universal Background Check Bill Is Designed to Land You in Prison…

    http://www.examiner.com/article/universal-background-check-bill-is-designed-to-land-you-prison

    Death before slavery!

  23. Mudlark says:

    Will someone tell me how Hitler would have infringed on my rights but Schumer does not?

  24. mobius says:

    Bring it!

    Fred
    MOLON LABE

  25. George Turner says:

    Actually, I’ve come around to support this legislation whole heartedly, since most Democrat legislators surely own guns for self-defense or campaign props and they can’t take them to DC. This means they leave their guns at home with their families or house-sitters. 5-years in jail, vacate the Senate and House seats, and have a nice day.

    And Obama has released photos where he’s shooting a shotgun. Did he own it? If not, 5-years in jail. If he did, he probaby forgot to pack it to Hawaii on vacation. 5-years in jail. If his Secret Service left a personal or back-up gun at home on the Hawaii trips, jail them too, along with probably the bulk of federal law enforcement officers who have to go TDY on occasion.

    Chuck Schumer has given Republicans the mechanism to carry out the Great Government Purge, if only they’ll sign on and have the guts to arrest pretty much the entire other side of the aisle.

    • Wraith says:

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!

      You actually think the laws are going to be applied to Our Lords And Masters?? That’s so CUTE!!

      Yeah…tell me again how that’s supposed to work? You don’t get it, dude. The rule of law is no more. Laws for us, but not for the ruling class. It’s always been that way more or less, but now they aren’t even trying to hide it.

      If you honestly think anyone in the nomenklatura are going to be prosecuted under laws such as these, you’d best rent a couple of D-10 Cats to pull your head out of your butt.

  26. PatriotWarMonger says:

    I think Schumer has ALREADY committed enough crimes against the Constitution that he could be prosecuted and hanged for them right now. Same goes for Feinstein. Apparently, these arrogant pusbags have no idea what kind of fire they are playing with?

  27. Garym says:

    These gun grabbers are getting thier courage from John Roberts’ lousy ruling on Obamacare. They figure that they can try anything and get it passed.

  28. Richard Cancemi says:

    Shumer has always been an S O B. I spent the first half of my life in NYC. Now I am so grateful for NOT living there. What happened to the people Of NY that has made them so gullible, so ignorant, so willing to support traitors to the Constitution. They have given their thinking ability to snake-oil salesmen of the Progressive Socialist Party (Democratic Party), chief among whom is Obama, lying con artist supreme.

  29. setanta says:

    please be careful of what you’re posting as too many are spewing and could even be trolls to lure others out.
    there is no privacy etc.
    free speech died 1st.