Bob Owens

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Boston strong! Company-sized police unit fired 40+ rounds at UNARMED terrorism suspect

Written By: Bob - Apr• 24•13

Remember the New York Times story claiming that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has an M4 assault rifle, two pistols, and bombs with him when heavily armed and armored law enforcement officers shot the boat he was hiding in to pieces? Well, that was all a load of crap.

Tsarnaev was unarmed.

Although police feared he was heavily armed, the suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings had no firearms when he came under a barrage of police gunfire that struck the boat where he was hiding, according to multiple federal law enforcement officials.

Authorities said they were desperate to capture Dzhokhar Tsarnaev so he could be questioned. The FBI, however, declined to discuss what triggered the gunfire.

I think I can answer that question.

When you arm, armor, and equip peace officers like combat infantrymen, but don’t give them the training, don’t be remotely surprised when they sling lead like a bunch of scared recruits just out of basic training.

If you want cops to act like peace officers, force them to act like peace officers, not make-believe adjuncts to Seal Team 6.

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  1. Factotum says:

    Some of them were acting like the Geheime Staatspolizei (Gestapo)

  2. Kerodin says:

    When you see yourself as a hammer, everything else in the world is a nail.


  3. redc1c4 says:

    same reason the cops here in LA got surprised by and then shot up the old ladies delivering news papers.

    they were oriented on the house they were supposed to be “guarding” instead of oriented onto the potential threat axises, so the first thing they saw was the truck right on top of them, and they panicked.

    give them 6 shot revolvers, a pump shotgun with 5 rounds and teach them to aim, not spray.

  4. Cole says:

    Back in the 90’s a cop friend told me that a lot of cops burnt out on the job because they were gung ho A type personalities that thought police work was action packed. They couldn’t deal with actual police work which was mostly patrol, paperwork, and dealing with the public in a friendly manner. In 2013 the gung ho types must be loving it. Armed to the teeth, door busting, and treating every citizen like a criminal.

  5. louielouie says:

    for all the talk of the POlice and media, why weren’t the same ROE those on patrol in afghan have to use, not employed here?
    also, if our soldiers are prosecuted/investigated, as they have been under the last two administrations, is BPD going to come under the same scrutiny?

  6. Drew says:

    I know why they opened fire. It’s because live patsies have a tendency to answer questions, and say things like “The FBI told me it wasn’t a real bomb,” and “I thought it was a drill.” Think Lee Harvey Oswald. I’d be shocked if this kid lives to see any kind of trial, even if they give him the kangaroo court down at Guantanamo.

    Seeing as how nearly all of the “terror” plots since 9/11 (and more than a few before) have involved some poor bastard(s) recruited, inspired, trained and equipped by Feds only to be busted for headlines and have the cases fall apart quietly… I’d have trouble believing the government/media if they were telling me the time of day, let alone a “terrorist” event that just happens to offer some prime opportunities to shove more of their agenda down our throats, for our safety, of course.

    • cmblake6 says:

      TA DA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Rob Crawford says:

      say things like “The FBI told me it wasn’t a real bomb,” and “I thought it was a drill.”

      Fer crissake, you have the effing Russians telling us multiple times this guy was a jihadi, and you’re pulling this tinfoil beanie crap?

      This is worse than the GD left, which shrieks the same BS every time one of theirs is caught planning to follow in the footsteps of the president’s close friend Bill Ayers.

      • Drew says:

        Of course, you’re right Rob. Work hard, pay your taxes, shut up, obey. Move along, nothing to see. Your masters love you and would never do anything bad to you. But because of your sheer awesomeness, all of your freedoms must be taken away, for your own good of course, because the terrorists only hate your freedom.

        It’s not like governments attacking their own people is a tradition as old as recorded history or anything, it’s purely an invention of those bat-shit crazy, tinfoil hat conspiracy nuts.

      • Chuck says:

        Rob, ordinarily I’d agree with you, but ponder this:

        We know, as you state above, that the Russians knew of Tamerlan and that the FBI interviewed him at the very least.

        So, why did the FBI need to release the photos to the public to identify the Tsarnaev boys when they already had files on at least one of them?

        I see only two logical answers, neither of which bodes well for different reasons:

        1) Utter incompetence on the part of the Fibbies.

        2) Something more sinister. It is quite plausible, given the history of FBI sting operations as a substitute for a counterterror strategy, is that this was a sting that went horribly wrong and they are covering up by making it look like they didn’t know who these guys were.

        Whatever the answer is, something stinks more than Tamerlan’s rotting corpse.

      • ManekiNeko says:

        Debka had an article stating that the two bombers were double agents. Doubles who turned.

        Of course, never explain by malice (e.g., conspiracy) that which can be explained by incompetence. So I vote for “Utter incompetence on the part of the Fibbies.”

  7. Pablo says:

    Law enforcement officials described the 30 minutes before the arrest of Tsarnaev as chaotic. One characterized it as “the fog of war” and said that in a highly charged atmosphere, one accidental shot could have caused what police call “contagious fire.”

    How did it get chaotic? How does a wounded, unarmed 19 year old hiding in a boat versus all the LE personnel and equipment the Boston area has to offer generate “the fog of war?” The situation seems pretty locked down to me.

    Notice that the FBI won’t say what started the gunfire. That’s their way of saying it wasn’t anything Tsarnaev did.

  8. rustbucket says:

    One question I’ve seen posed, but as yet unanswered, where were the “tracking” K9 unit(s)? Seems to me to be a pretty good question. Anybody?

    • cmblake6 says:

      Excellent question. I will say this fellow was “supposed to be wearing a bomb vest”. Which begs the question, do you shoot at a bomb? At close range? If you have a bomb, you try NOT to trigger it. If you have a clear shot, you put ONE at the top of the brain stem, you do not just blaze away in the general direction. Are they really so stupid?

      • Dan says:

        Not only stupid but piss-poor shots.
        If I were chief, I’d have the entire force at the range ’til they could put 3 rounds in a head size target.

  9. Comrade X says:

    Folks we been heading down this road for a while now;

    “No Knock Raids (or SWAT Teams Raids) are when a dozen or more police officers in full gear and artillery break into the homes of unaware citizens without warning…..

    Ben Franklin summed it up when he said:

    “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

    It doesn’t matter if you call it the war on drugs or the war on terror if we give up our liberty fighting either we are heading down the same road that’s ultimately leads to tyranny!

    Death before slavery!

  10. chowhen says:

    They came out fully dressed for the rehearsal so they figured they might as well use their weapons too. Just like in the movie Brave heart “We might as well fight the war we came fully dressed” or something to that affect.