Bob Owens

The saddest truth in politics is that people get the leaders they deserve

“High-capacity” firearms: as old as America itself.

Written By: Bob - Jun• 20•13

I first personally heard of American Spirit Arms when they joined the boycott of New York over their implementation of the blatantly unconstitutional NY SAFE Act. I was unaware (until a few weeks ago) just how much an outspoken and advocate for liberty ASA’s Joe Sirochman was until a few weeks ago, when I stumbled across his video discussing a “high-capacity” firearm that I’d never heard of before. I’ve been using his argument online since then, but forgot to post the link for you guys.

It’s time to fix that.


It rather effectively destroys the gun control argument that the Founders, “couldn’t have imagined fast-firing rifles with high capacity detachable magazines,” huh? I’d suggest bookmarking that video and sending to your anti-gun friends or dropping it on Facebook so that your other friends can share it.

When you can point out that the primary author of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson himself, purchased two Girandoni rifles, it rather blows the argument that Founders didn’t know of fast-firing high-capacity, detachable-magazine rifles in civilian hands to shreds, doesn’t it?

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  1. LC Scotty says:

    11 round, pre-loaded cylinders for a revolver. Yes, it was a 1.25 caliber revolver with a 3 foot barrel, but there is no reason to suppose the tech couldn’t be scaled down.

  2. Pro Patria says:

    How can one still have anti-gun friends? It is my firm belief that we should no longer associate with the enemies of freedom. Give them one chance to realize the error of their liberal ways. After that, you are just wasting your time. Sic Semper Tyrannis!

  3. SO2001 says:

    Never heard of this rifle pretty cool

  4. Matt says:

    I want one! I want to try shooting an AQT with one!!!

  5. Durk says:

    The NRA museum has a full automatic 22 shot coach gun dating from the early to mid 1700s. It was used for mowing down entire gangs of coach robbers.

    It has two barrels with staggered holes leading from one barrel to the other. Each barrel was loaded with 11 balls (which had to be precisely sized and well patched) and eleven powder charges. The flintlock ignited the first charge (the one loaded last toward the muzzle) in barrel 1, which then communicated the fire through the first small between barrel hole to the front charge in barrel 2, which in turn ignited the second charge from the muzzle in barrel 1, which in turn ignited the second charge from the muzzle in barrel 2, etc., until all 22 balls were fired. Once fired, the gun continued firing until all 22 shots had been expended.

    Upon modern testing, the firing rate was about 10 rounds per second, typical for modern full automatic weapons.

    Yes, 18th Century Americans (to be) had full automatic high capacity submachine guns!

    Of course, such guns were undoubtedly very expensive and required extremely careful cleaning and loading with uniform balls, patches, and powder, so it is not surprising that they are very rare today. Unless properly loaded, they would either misfire or explode.

  6. Chaplain Tim says:

    One minor quibble- the Girandoni rifles were air rifles with a pressurized air chamber in the buttstock, not firearms. The 2nd Amendment makes no distinction between air rifles and firearms, but modern laws do.

  7. Chris Watson says:

    Sweet! Thank you!!!

  8. M J Murcott says:

    The right to bear arms 2nd amendment an appraisal of the issue in its historical context –